JASPER JOTTINGS Week 32  - 2017 Aug 06   

Jasper Jottings - The achievement journal of my fellow Jaspers, the alumni of the Manhattan College



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POSITRACTION: Senator John McCain cast the decisive NO vote


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Dear CV Friend,


Just after midnight this morning, Senator John McCain cast the decisive NO vote.

A last ditch “skinny” bill to repeal portions of Obamacare (and defund Planned Parenthood for one year) failed to pass 51-49. Had McCain voted yes, Vice President Mike Pence was available to break a potential tie vote.

Two other Republicans (Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins) also voted no. Recall that Murkowski and McCain BOTH voted for partial repeal in 2015. And don’t forget this campaign ad last year that boldly stated: “John McCain is leading the fight to stop Obamacare.”

Apparently John McCain no longer approves that message.

So what’s next?

Republicans are in the hot seat. They promised again and again to repeal Obamacare. The House did their job. They’ve now tried several versions in the Senate. They tried the same repeal that they passed in 2015. They tried a modified repair and replace (BCRA). They also tried this skinny repeal.

So far Republicans are batting .000 on health care.

CV supported passage of this bill, hoping that the inevitable conference process with the House would produce a viable repeal and replace plan. Negotiations continue and it's still possible that Senate Republicans could propose a new bill that gets majority support. But failing that, Democrats are salivating at the prospect of entering negotiations this fall to bail out their insurance company cronies.

What can we do?

THE TRUTH: Republicans deserve most of the blame here. They’ve spent months haggling over how to repeal one of the worst laws in American history. People are suffering. Families want help. And Republicans have failed to deliver.

But Democrats also deserve blame. Even vulnerable Democrats up for re-election next year in states won by Trump did NOTHING. They sat on their hands and played politics. They provided cover for Planned Parenthood. And they danced with glee last night when a very modest compromise effort was defeated.

So come next year -- these puppets of Chuck Schumer need to be defeated.

Imagine a Senate with 2, 3, or even 5 more senators dedicated to patient-centered health care reform, protecting religious liberty, and providing real school choice for Catholic families.

Imagine if our entire agenda wasn't dependent on barely squeaking by with 1 or 2 votes. That's why 2018 is so important.

McCain, Murkowski, and Collins dealt the decisive blow last night. But pro-abortion Catholic Democrats in swing states must also be exposed and sent into retirement. And unlike McCain and Co., they’re up for re-election next year.

In fact, 10 Democrat Senators in states won by Trump are running for re-election next year.

We need to understand this a long fight.

And there’s plenty of time still left on the clock.

We voted and we want results.

And we won’t rest until we get it done.

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As a pro-life little L libertarian I can only hope that the balance shifts in the babies' favor.

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MFOUND: Jaspers as student teachers


P.S. 81 Robert J. Christen
Grades K-5

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PS 81's test scores indicate roughly half the students meet or exceed state academic standardsa very respectable showing especially compared to other Bronx schools. Still, city Education Department evaluations of the school cite slightly below-average student progress compared to similar schools.

Many teachers have years of experience but at the time of our visit more than half a dozen were new, including several Manhattan College graduates who had worked as student teachers at PS 81. A young teacher said she feels like a fully contributing member of the staff. "We get heard just as equally," she said.

Principal Anna Kirrane was assistant principal at PS 81 for nine years before taking over in October 2012. She arrives at 6:30 am each day to be available to anyone with concerns, and takes the time to greet parents who drop by. Kirrane attended boarding school in Ireland as a girl, and is of Irish heritage. She urges all parents to "share your rich heritage with your child."

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JLINKEDIN: Yu, Michelle [MC????] Sports Anchor/Reporter at SportsNet



Yu, Michelle [MC????]
Sports Anchor/Reporter at SportsNet
New York SportsNet
New York 

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JLINKEDIN: Saxton, Christopher [MC2005] Teacher at NYC DoE



Saxton, Christopher [MC2005]
Teacher at NYC Department of Education
Northvale, New Jersey

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JHQ: New "gojaspers" website



Manhattan Unveils New SIDEARM Sports Website

Riverdale, NY - The Manhattan College Athletic Department has joined forces with industry leader SIDEARM Sports to launch a redesigned GoJaspers.com. The new site is a responsive model that converts content to the screen size of the specific computer ...

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[JR: Not my cup of tea, but then they aren’t trying to appeal to me. Seems “busy” and hodge podge. But someone liked it. I didn’t spend a lot of time to see what has been “lost” or “changed detrimentally”] 

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MVIDEO: Center for Academic Success



manhattancollege has uploaded Manhattan College’s Center for Academic Success

[JR: Interesting 1 minute video.]

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JLINKEDIN: Thomas, Jayd [MC2017] seeking Admin or IT positions in Philly



Thomas, Jayd [MC2017]
Alumni at Manhattan College in Riverdale, New York.
Looking for Administrative or IT positions in the Philadelphia area.
Darby, Pennsylvania

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JLINKEDIN: Jack, Niara [MC2017] Brand Ambassador at Red Bull



Jack, Niara [MC2017]
Brand Ambassador at Red Bull
New York, New York

Excellent communication and interpersonal skills. Strong presentation skills and public speaking ability. Superior organizational, time management, and self-motivation skills. Ability to work independently and in a team environment. Experience in many aspects of digital media, mobile applications and diverse technologies. Lead by example.

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JNEWS: Allen, Stefani [MC2003] raises funds for scholarships



BRISTOL SPOTLIGHT: August festival to celebrate African-American pride, raise funds for scholarships
By Cate Murway; Digital First Media Aug 2, 2017 Updated 9 hrs ago

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Barbara’s daughter Stefani Allen (Truman 1999) was a scholarship recipient when she enrolled as a student in Manhattan College (Class of 2003) for marketing. “Now she wants to give back,” said Barbara.

Stef has joined the team along with Darryl Curtis, Ray Osbourne and Mussezt: the Poet. They plan the African American Festival and other fund raisers, such as bowling parties, coin tosses and this year’s inaugural “Dine and Poetry” event with hors d’oeuvres, “spoken word poetry”, a comedian and additional entertainment to be held at GBH Beauty Salon on Mill Street on Friday, August 11 from 9 to 11 p.m. Charitable donation is $10.

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Allen, Stefani [MC2003]

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JNEWS: Musumeci, Peter M. Jr. [MC1972] Republic Bank BoD



Republic Bank Adds Peter M. Musumeci, Jr. to Board of Directors
Aug 2, 2017, 10:15am EDT

PHILADELPHIA, Aug. 2, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Republic First Bancorp, Inc. (NASDAQ: FRBK), the parent company of Republic Bank, today announced that Peter M. Musumeci, Jr. has joined the Republic Bank Board of Directors.

"Pete is a strong addition to our Board of Directors, bringing decades of industry experience with high growth, customer-focused businesses," said Vernon W. Hill, II, Chairman of Republic First Bancorp, Inc. "His expertise will be vital to executing the bank's aggressive growth plan for years to come."

With more than 40 years of experience in the banking industry, Musumeci previously served as an Executive Vice President and Chief Credit Officer with Commerce Bank in Cherry Hill, NJ, joining the bank just one year after it was initially founded. He also worked as a consultant for Metro Bank Harrisburg in Pennsylvania and currently serves as a consultant for Metro Bank PLC in London, England.

"I have been honored to witness the incredible success of Vernon Hill's customer-centric business model firsthand both nationally and internationally," said Musumeci. "As Republic Bank continues to gain momentum and grow market share throughout the Greater Philadelphia region, I look forward to playing an integral role in the bank's mission to provide the absolute best banking experience in the country."

In addition to serving on Republic Bank's Board of Directors, Musumeci holds a seat on the Board of Trustees at Manhattan College in New York City, where he earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration.

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Musumeci, Peter M. Jr. [MC1972]

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JFACEBOOK: Kranichfeld, Andrew Chowder [MC2008] starts a dating site



2017 08Aug 02 Chowder

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Kranichfeld, Andrew Chowder [MC2008]

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JOBIT: Bassett, Fr. Frank [MC1970 RIP] Obitutary on 2017-Jul-04


Dear John,

The July 20, 2017 Edition of Catholic New York at page 37,
has the attached Obitutary for Fr. Frank Bassett who I believe is
a member of the Class of 1970.

May He Rest In Peace.



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McEneney, Mike (MC1953)

[JR: Thanks, Mike. Much appreciated.]

Bassett, Fr. Frank [MC1970 RIP]

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JHQ: Alma Mater's Planned Giving email



In This Issue—Summer 2017
  • Professor Schweitzer Gives Back
  • A Gift That Provides Income for Life
  • Should You Establish a Gift Annuity?
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JHQ: Alma Mater's ROI



Manhattan College's Return on Investment

[JR: Two minute video] 

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JLINKEDIN: Villata, Chris [MC2012] President at Hartsdale Security



Villata, Chris [MC2012]
President at Hartsdale Security, Inc.
Hartsdale, New York


Chris began his career in the electrical industry as a mechanic for LV Electric Company, Inc. He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Manhattan College; and immediately began working at LV Electric handling marketing, finances & field work. He possesses the necessary professional experience and passed the examination to become a licensed alarm installer in New York state. Chris decided to go out on his own and open his own alarm & home automation company in the Spring of 2017. The focus of Hartsdale Security, Inc. is to provide smart home solutions that will keep families connected & secure. Chris currently resides in Hartsdale, New York.

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JOBIT: Tripp, Donald J. [MC1971 RIP] on 2017-Jul-29




TRIPP, Donald J. 67, of Ipswich, MA passed away Saturday July 29th, 2017.

Son of Agnes (Wallant) and Joseph S. Tripp (Middletown Hall of Fame inductee, Pratt & Whitney associate), Don was born in Middletown, CT on October 30th, 1949. He was raised in Cromwell, CT and spent his childhood playing on "The Manor." Don was part of the first graduating class of Xavier High School in 1967, continuing his education at Manhattan College where he earned his Bachelor of Science in Business in 1971.

His love of sports, undoubtedly passed on by his father, started early in life. He played baseball throughout adolescence but after taking golf lessons a golf-pro encouraged his Father to forego baseball because "this kid was meant to play golf." And Golf he did. Don was a consistent tournament winner. He was a member of the Andover Country Club for 40 years.

Later in life, he added fishing to his list of favorite activities. One of his favorite spots to surf cast was off the shore in Biddeford Pool, ME where he spent time every summer.

Don established a successful insurance agency: Dudley & Borland, Ellis & Andrews, which was located in Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA.

Above all else, Don was a loving family man, giving friend and always affable, gregarious and socially engaging.

Donald J Tripp is survived by his wife JoAnn (O'Neill) Tripp, his daughter Joanna Tripp Ortiz, son-in-law Jorge A. Ortiz and his grandchildren Julia and Jace. His sister Linda Morrison, nephew Tod McKeon, nieces Jolie McKeon and Deanna Sowle.

Funeral procession from the George L. Doherty Funeral Home, 855 Broadway (Powder House Sq.) Somerville, Monday morning August 7, 2017 at 11am, followed by a Funeral Service in the Story Chapel, Mt. Auburn Cemetery, Cambridge at 12:30. Relatives and friends invited. Calling hours in the Funeral Home, Sunday August 6, 2017 from 2:00 – 6:00. Interment Mt. Auburn Cemetery, Cambridge. In lieu of flowers kindly consider a donation to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, 262 Danny Thomas Place, Memphis, TN 38105. For more information and guestbook please visit: dohertyfuneralservice.com.

Published in The Boston Globe on Aug. 4, 2017


Tripp, Donald J. [MC1971 RIP]

Guestbook: Same link

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Colon, Philip J. (MC1962) added this request to his prayer circle.

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JNEWS: Godino, Marcel [MC2015] Skidmore College assistant men's lacrosse coach


Marcel Godino named assistant men's lacrosse coach
8/3/2017 1:11:00 PM

SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. – Skidmore College men's lacrosse head coach Tucker Kear has announced the hiring of Marcel Godino as his assistant coach for the upcoming 2018 season. Godino will assist in recruiting, player development, offensive strategy, and scouting, among other tasks.

Godino comes to Saratoga Springs after three seasons as an assistant coach with the Bard men's lacrosse team. There, he assisted in recruiting, scouting, and game plan efforts for the Raptors. He developed two players at Bard who were honored with All-Liberty League selections over the three seasons.

Prior to Bard, Godino worked with United Lacrosse from 2013-2015 as a coach and camp counselor, teaching basic skills and strategies to kids in the middle and high school levels. Godino also worked as an assistant coach at his alma mater, Summit High School in New Jersey, and has spent three seasons as a coach with the United States Naval Academy Lacrosse Camp. In his spare time, Godino has also worked as a private lacrosse tutor, working with players to help improve their physical and technical skills.

Godino was a four-year starter and three-year captain at Manhattan College, where he played in the midfield. He tallied 85 career points on 55 goals and 30 assists, and snagged 61 career ground balls. He graduated in May of 2015 with a bachelor's degree in Physical Education. In high school, Godino was a Newark Star Ledger Third Team All-State lacrosse selection at Summit, leading his team to a school record 68-game winning streak and back-to-back New Jersey State Championships.

"During his two years at Bard College, Coach Godino has proven himself to be a tireless worker both on the field as well as the recruiting trail," said Kear. "We are thrilled to have a guy with such high character and energy joining the staff.  Here at Skidmore, we pride ourselves on our positivity and creativity and I think Marcel is going to fit in perfectly to the way we like to do things." "There is no doubt about his leadership ability, earning Captain for three straight years at Division I Manhattan College.  He is the guy who is always doing things the right way, whether or not anyone is looking.  I believe he is going to bring his own brand of lacrosse to the offensive side of the ball this year for us and we are ecstatic to get going with this year's group and see how far we can go together."

Godino, originally from New Jersey, currently resides in Saratoga Springs. His brother, Jules, played lacrosse and was a team captain at the United States Naval Academy.

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Godino, Marcel [MC2015]

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MNEWS: Gauzza, Andrew III [MCstudent] runs for Beacon Council



Many Moving Parts in Beacon Council Election
By Jeff Simms on August 4, 2017No Comment
Incumbent knocked off ballot; Democrat to run as Republican
By Jeff Simms

The Beacon Republican Committee has issued its endorsements for the upcoming City Council elections, while objections knocked three Democratic candidates off the ballot — although they can appeal or gather enough signatures to be included as independents.

All six seats on the council are contested every two years; current members Peggy Ross (Ward 1) and Pam Wetherbee (Ward 3) are not running for re-election.

The Republican-endorsed candidates are Wayne Theiss (Ward 1), a volunteer firefighter who owns an HVAC business; Andrew Gauzza III (Ward 3), a Manhattan College student; Chris Bopp (Ward 4), an accountant, real estate agent and former City Council member; and Amando Downer, a business consultant who is running for an at-large seat.

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Gauzza, Andrew III [MCstudent]

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JEMAIL: McEneney Edward J. (MC1959) gets the OK health-wise


Good Afternoon All,

Mike McEneney has just shared some good news. Ed's Doctor has just given him a clean bill of health and Ed is good to go. We celebrate this good news with a prayer of thanks. Ed sends his thanks to all of you for all the prayers and good thoughts. Thank you all. God Bless.

Colon, Philip J. (MC1962)

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McEneney, Mike (MC1953)

McEneney Edward J. (MC1959)

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JHQ: August 2017 Alumni Connection



Alumni Connection | August 2017

  • August 12, 2017 | Southampton Social Club, Southampton, NY
    A Day in the Hamptons
  • August 15, 2017 | Boscobel House and Grounds, Garrison, NY
    Hudson Valley Shakespeare Outing
  • August 17, 2017 | Citi Field, Flushing, NY
    Subway Series: Yankees at Mets
  • August 26, 2017 | Oceanport, NJ
    A Day at Monmouth Park Racetrack

  • Student Veterans Find Tight-Knit Community at Manhattan College
  • Large Majority of Class of 2016 Lands in Chosen Fields
  • Jose Carrera '17 Signs with New York Yankees

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COMMENT: Adrienne Ricci about Ricci, John J. [MC1942 RIP]


JOBIT: Ricci, John J. [MC1942 RIP] on 2017-Jun-04
John J. Ricci M.D.
1920 - 2017

RICCI - John J. MD passed away on June 4 in Ellsworth ME.

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Message from Adrienne Ricci

To Manhattan College,

Thank you for your acknowledgement and respectful commentary regarding my father, John J. Ricci MD. He was very proud to be an Alumni of Manhattan College and had many memorable life events while attending. He went on to St. Louis University, graduating with and earning a medical degree. He was swiftly usurped by Uncle Sam for WWI and then Korea.He established his practice in Huntington Station, NY, as a beloved GP for 65 years,retiring at age 85.

While at Manhattan, John created color images for his class yearbook, after researching, through patent offices, the color printing process. A first at Manhattan!

He intricately illustrated medical manuals, published by Prof. Acconci, while attending Manhattan. His artistic talents were unsurpassed.

Dr. Ricci was adored by his patients, generations of patients, half of whom he delivered. He was a dedicated and devoted physician, Husband, Father, an ardent award winning artist who was one of the founders of the Huntington Township Art League, multilinguist, a member of the United Flying Octegenarians ( UFO’s) having earned his pilots licence at the age of 75, sailor, boatbuilder, fisherman, sculptor, gourmet chef and all around remarkable man.

He did not go into medicine for the income potential. He genuinely cared for people first. His patients would often pay him with home-grown produce tucked into the back seat of his beloved Corvair. The car, with 4 studded tires, that enabled him to make house calls, regardless of how snowy the roads were. A Cadillac was not his style. His devotion was to his patients, not his income. He gave his all...and everyone knew and appreciated that.

Your college graduated a phenomenal man. You should be proud.

Adrienne C. Ricci

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JFOUND: Zuniga, Cesar [MC2000] Attorney in private practice



Cesar Zuniga, Esq.

Cesar is licensed to practice law in the State of New York, the State of New Jersey and United States District Court (Southern District of New York and Eastern District of New York). Cesar received his bachelor's degree from Manhattan College in 2000 graduating magna cum laude. He attended Pace University School of Law in White Plains where he graduated in 2003 with honors. During law school, Cesar interned for a Federal District Court Judge in the Southern District of New York.

After graduating from law school, Mr. Zuniga practiced law at several insurance defense firms and general practice firms where he prepared and argued motions, conducted examinations under oath, conducted depositions, attended arbitrations, attended mediations, and conducted trials. He has represented clients in Civil Court, Landlord Tenant Court, Small Claims Court, Supreme Court, Family Court, Federal Bankruptcy Court and Federal District Court.

Cesar handles the following matters: Accidents, Automobile Accidents, Body Waxing Accidents, Constructions Accidents, Personal Injury Accidents, Slip and Fall Accidents, Trip and Fall Accidents, Wrongful Death Matters, Credit Card Debt Defense, Real Estate Closings and More.

Cesar is a member of the New York State Bar Association, the Hispanic National Bar Association and Nassau County Bar Association.

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Zuniga, Cesar [MC2000]

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JOBIT: Ouimet, John A. [MC1972 RIP] on 2017-Aug-04



John A. Ouimet
(October 2, 1950 - August 4, 2017)

Clifton Park – John A. Ouimet, 66, beloved husband of Gail Curtis Ouimet, died peacefully on Friday, August 4, 2017 at the St. Peter’s Hospice Inn in Albany.

Born and raised in Cohoes, son of the late Samuel and Ann Stopera Ouimet, he has resided in Clifton Park since 1985. John was a graduate of CBA, Manhattan College and Stetson Law School in Florida. He had been employed by the State of New York for 35 years, retiring in 2011 as Deputy Counsel in the NYS Office of Children and Family Services.

He had also been very active in the Town of Halfmoon serving on the Zoning Board and Planning Board where he served as Chairman for several years.

John and Gail enjoyed spending time together, especially as they traveled extensively.

Survivors in addition to his wife, Gail, include his uncle, Larry Ouimet of Cohoes, his aunt, Cecile Brogan of Cohoes and many cousins.

Funeral from the McNulty Funeral Home, 147 Hudson Avenue, Green Island on Tuesday at 9:15 a.m. thence to St. Ambrose Church in Latham where a Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated at 10:00 a.m. Interment will follow at St. Agnes Cemetery in Cohoes. Calling hours will be on Monday from 4 to 7 p.m. at the funeral home.

The family has requested that those who wish contribute to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, 421 New Karner Road, Albany, NY 12205 or the American Cancer Society, 1 Penny Lane, Latham, NY 12110 in memory of John.


Ouimet, John A. [MC???? RIP]

Guestbook: http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/Batesville/guestbook.aspx?n=john-ouimet&pid=186295116

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Dear John,

                I believe that John is a member of the Class of 1972.

                         May He Rest In Peace.


McEneney, Mike (MC1953)

[JR: Thanks, Mike. Much appreciated.]

Ouimet, John A. [MC1972 RIP]

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MNEWS: Alma Mater hosts 5 Palestinian students for summer program



Bethlehem University students visit NYC for research program
Posted: Aug 03, 2017 7:37 PM EDT
Updated: Aug 03, 2017 8:03 PM EDT

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After spending their summer in the Bronx, a group of students from the Palestinian territories will be saying goodbye this week to the Big Apple.

Some of the students from Bethlehem University had never traveled before, but for the past 13 weeks they have been at Manhattan College working a summer research program and learning life lessons.

Between their studies, the students took in the sights, sounds and food of the city.

Student Jane Allawi says she was amazed by the academic freedom American students have.

"I saw that there are so many options here, and I love that because back home we don't have a lot of programs, a lot of options for biology students,” she says.

Last summer, two students were in the program.  This year, there were five.

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PRAYERSREQUESTED: Colon, Philip J. (MC1962) prays for the Morganthaler family


Good Morning All,

Ed Riely has shared an urgent prayer request for a Family that has had more than their share of pain. Please allow me to share below Ed's words regarding this good man, Frank Morganthaler, his Wife Barbara and their only Daughter, Michelle.

Please raise the volume for Michelle, Frank and Barbara.

We pray that in Guiding their hands, the Surgeons feel God's strength and love for one of his Children. We pray for Michelle's surgery to be successful, free of complication and that Michelle is returned to her loving Family. We pray too for her Dad, Frank, that his recovery continues as the Family goes through this so stressful time.

Thank you. God Bless.
Colon, Philip J. (MC1962)

Sent: Fri, Aug 4, 2017 09:01 PM
Subject: Re: When it rain it pours: URGENT PRAYER REQUEST

Thank you Alicia Boland for the following

Update today!—ER Frank Morganthaler, patriot, brave man, who suffered massive heart attacks a 5 or 6 weeks ago…coded 7 timesbefore open heart surgery is now sitting in a waiting room in CT. (they live in Hawthorne) waiting a 7 hour surgery on his only daughter, Michelle, who was a pedestrian hit by a car Wednesday  nite … it appears to be touch and go.”

"He and his wife Barbara are just learning to cope with his condition...he is on a walker and fragile.  Please pray for this familly and for the surgeons who are performing surgery on Michelle’s right side.   Thank you. 

Please beseech Jesus and Mary on their behalf.”

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ENDNOTE: Bun or bump?



Bun or bump?
Does the mother contain the foetus or is it a part of her? On the metaphysics of pregnancy, and its ethical implications

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An alternative view to the parthood model is the container model, which seems to be the extreme opposite of it, since it claims that the foetus is not a part of the maternal organism, but rather is contained inside the maternal organism. So, according to this container model, the maternal organism is literally a container for the foetus, where the relationship between the maternal organism and the foetus is like that of a niche to a tenant. A niche is something that encloses something else, such that the smaller thing is inside the larger thing, where the smaller thing is classed as the tenant. Think of this model as being like a tenant in a rented house, such that the house is the niche for its occupant. The foetus, as a tenant, inhabits the maternal organism, as a niche. This is a view held by the philosophers Barry Smith and Berit Brogaard in their paper ‘Sixteen Days’ (2003) in The Journal of Medicine and Philosophy. They provide the analogy of the foetus being inside some space in the maternal organism in much the same way as a tub of yogurt is inside a fridge or, as phrased earlier, the way a bun is inside an oven.

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An interesting and thoughtful approach to the conundrum of abortion.

I’m a fat old white guy injineer and not a philosopher or doctor of medicine. BUT, one thing I’m sure of is that Gooferment involvement has just made the problem worse. If not, insolvable.

Dona Nobis Pacem

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