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The daily site had 793 views last week; weekly site had 5. (Weekly site can replace Distribute!) 754 Jaspers are active on the Distribute Yahoo site. (Serves no purpose!) The site had 1,240 unique visits last week. 26 in LinkedInJaspers (http://tinyurl.com/yp6x2q). mcALUMdb is STILL off the air. # # # # # |
Last week’s issue went out with the wrong URL. I was able to fix the online copies, but not the Yahoo email distribution, or the Yahoo saved message. So, I just deleted the Yahoo copy. If I put it up again, it’ll send it out annoying every one. Argh! I’ll try to do better, but I warned you I was a lousy clerk! # # # # # |
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“There are many things the government can’t do, many good purposes it must renounce. It must leave them to the enterprise of others. It cannot feed the people. It cannot enrich the people. It cannot teach the people. It cannot convert the people.” ~ Lord Acton (1834–1902) |
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mccarthy7.html October 15, 2007 *** begin quote *** The life of Franz Jägerstätter
was the ordinary life of an Austrian farmer in the ***and*** However, before bishops, priests, ministers, pastors and Christians in general will be able to say that heroic, "No," they will, like Franz Jägerstätter, have to first choose to see. They will have to choose to see with the eyes of their hearts, as well as with the eyes of their minds. They will have to choose to see that the death-dealing elephant of justified violence and enmity has entered the Church and has been elevated by Church leaders and Christians to an ethical status equal to or superior to Jesus and His Way. They will have to choose to see that this Christian equivalent of the Hebrews’ golden calf has ruined and is ruining almost everything that, the Father through Jesus, wants to do for all His infinitely loved sons and daughters – each and every one of whom He drew out of nothingness for the gift of Eternal Life with Him. *** end quote *** Do we have the courage of a “Franz Jägerstätter” or the insight of a Pastor Martin Niemöller? I’d like to think of Blessed Franz and Pastor Martin as the spiritual icons of Jaspers. When we see the “Barbara Streisand” that passes for civil civic discourse about the welfare – warfare state, do we take a stand and just say “no”. Quietly, simply, unequivocally, “no”. Not rudely. Not confrontationally. Not with “a different violence” in our heart. But with the focus of a Gandhi, the stubbornness of a MLK, the internal grace of a Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu (Mother Teresa). Just “no”. Now I know my fellow alums will be much better at this than I am. But who knows which straw will break that old proverbial camel’s back? “no” Dona Nobis Pacem |
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JASPER HEADQUARTERS: New November 2007 Newsletter http://www.manhattan.edu/newsletters/ManhattanMonthly/2007_11/ {JR: Interesting. Was there an October and I just missed it? :-) Sigh! Wonder if there’ll be a December? Sigh! } # # # # # |
JASPER HEADQUARTERS: http://www.manhattan.edu/news/news_releases/111407_1.shtml November 14, 2007 The program is a unique and festive celebration that combines an eclectic selection of music, prayers and traditional Christmas carols. The MC Singers will perform various pieces from baroque contemporary music and spirituals, while the MC Orchestra will perform selections from George F. Handel’s Eulenburg Concerto. The ensembles will combine to present the Gloria from Franz Schubert’s Mass in G and Johann Sebastian Bach’s Jesu, Joy of Man’s Desiring. Immediately following the performance, the Singers will process by candlelight onto the Quad and light the College’s Christmas tree. A brass quartet will entertain guests during the lighting. The program will return indoors to Smith Auditorium for a reception, including a visit from Santa Claus and live jazz music. For more information about this event, please call William
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JASPER HEADQUARTERS: http://www.manhattan.edu/news/news_releases/111407_2.shtml November 14, 2007 Christopher, a senior computer engineering major, won a scholarship award for $3,750. This marks the 18th consecutive year a Manhattan engineering student has won scholarships in this academic competition, which is open to all computer or electrical engineering students who are residents of New York City or Westchester, Nassau or Suffolk counties. A banquet to honor the winners was held on Nov. 9 at the
Creek Hollow Country Club in AOC is an international organization with more than 14,000 members and more than100 corporate participants who are focused on the science and practice of electronic warfare and related disciplines. {Extraneous Deleted} # # # # # |
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JOY: Michelle Lynn Hall (MC2002) weds http://www.benningtonbanner.com/ci_7348400? *** begin quote *** Hall marries The bride is the daughter of Henry and Kathy Hall of
Arlington, Vt. The groom is the son of Louis and Judy Carrara
of The bride was escorted by her father. Kate McGowen, friend of the bride, was maid of honor. Bridal attendants were Gina Cora, friend of the bride, and Jamie Sisto, sister of the groom. Justin Rozzero, friend of the groom, was best man. Ushers were Anthony Amaral, Joseph Bell and Philip LeBoeuf, friends of the groom; David Hall, brother of the bride, and Mike Sisto, brother-in-law of the groom. A reception celebration was held at the Easton Beach
Rotunda Ballroom in The bride is a 1998 graduate of AMHS in The groom is a 1996 graduate of Don and Michelle Carrara reside
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JObit: ACTIONABLE OBIT: EXPIRES
09NOV07 http:// www.legacy.com /BeaumontEnterprise/ Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory &PersonId=97521168 *** begin quote *** Clarence James Traube Clarence James Traube was born
on October 29, 1915 in He served as president and member of the Board of
Directors of the Texaco P. A. W. Employee Credit Union; he was a student
advisor for the Lamar Student Chapter of American Society of Civil Engineers;
served as a member of Port Arthur Housing Finance Committee; and was an
active member of St. James Catholic Church. He received the Service to
Mankind award from the Evening Sertoma Club in
1993, was honored with a proclamation by the Mayor of Port Arthur declaring
Tuesday, March 30, 1993 as Clarence J. Traube Day,
and by the Senate of the State of He is survived by his wife, of 62 years, Winona “Nonie” Traube, daughter, Joan Ann and husband, Albert J. Gray of
Orange, Texas and son, Michael J. Traube and wife,
Linda S. of Kingsville, Texas. He is also survived by his granddaughters,
Nancy Ashworth and her husband, Chris, Kathy Jones and her husband, Perry, Visitation will be on Thursday, November 8, 2007 from 5
P.M. to 8 P.M. with a Rosary to be recited at 7 P.M. at Clayton Thompson
Funeral Home. A Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated at 10:00 A.M.
Friday, November 9, 2007 at St. James Catholic Church in Published in The ***End Quote*** Guestbook for your comments is at: http:// www.legacy.com /BeaumontEnterprise/ GB/GuestbookView.aspx? PersonId=97521168 # - # - # Dear John, I believe that
Clarence is a member of the Class of 1937. May He Rest In Peace. Mike (Thanks, Mike) # - # - # Traube, Clarence James (MC1937) # # # # # |
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12NOV07 http:// www.legacy.com /NYTimes/ DeathNotices.asp ?Page=LifeStory& PersonId=97711534 *** begin quote *** Dorothy B. Corrigan CORRIGAN–Dorothy B. (nee Bria)
of Daughter of the late Jenny Imbrogno
and Emil P. Bria of Corrigan attended the During World War II, Mrs. Corrigan served in Civilian Defense as an Air Raid Warden and Civilian Military Intelligence for several years. The family will receive friends on Sunday from 3-7pm at
the Graham Funeral Home, Published in the New York Times on 11/11/2007. ***End Quote*** Guestbook for your comments is at: http:// www.legacy.com /NYTimes/ GB /GuestbookView.aspx? PersonId=97711534 # - # - # Dear John, I believe that
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JObit: Roche, William “Bill” A. (MCattendee ~1973) http:// www.legacy.com /TimesUnion-Albany/ Obituaries.asp? Page=LifeStory& PersonId=97948227 *** begin quote *** William A. “Bill” Roche Roche, William “Bill” A. HALFMOON, N.Y. William A. “Bill”
Roche, 54, of Mohawk Terrace, Halfmoon, died on
Saturday, November 10, 2007 at Born on August 31, 1953 in Bill was president and CEO of Roche Sales and Associates
in He was a loving and caring father, grandfather, and brother and a true friend to all who were associated with him. Bill will be missed by his family and friends, he was loved by all who knew him. Devoted father of Lisa (David) Schroeder of Clifton Park, Heather (Randy) Space of Athens, N.Y. and Megan (Jeremy) Root of Wappingers Falls, N.Y.; who are survived by their mother, Deborah Petrazzoulo Roche of Athens; brother of John (Diane) Roche of Saratoga Springs, Timothy Roche of Greensboro, N.C. and Mary Carol (Kurt) Edwards of Norwich, N.Y.; cherished grandfather of Bridget Schroeder, Makenzie Lampman and Nolan Space; also survived by several nieces and nephews. Funeral will be held Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 9:00
a.m. at the Gordon C. Emerick Funeral Home, 1550
Route 9 in Clifton Park, thence to St. Pius X Church, Crumitie
Rd., Loudon-ville, where at 10:00 a.m. the Mass of
Christian Burial will be celebrated. Relatives and friends are invited and
may call at the funeral home on Friday from 2-4 and 6-8 p.m. Interment will
be held in St. Mary’s Cemetery, *** end quote *** [N.B.: In accordance with my liberal definition of what is
a Jasper, I think if some one saw fit to mention his
time at http:// www.legacy.com /TimesUnion-Albany/ GB /GuestbookView.aspx? PersonId=97948227 # - # - # Roche, William “Bill” A. (MCattendee ~1973) # # # # # |
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17NOV07 West http:// www.legacy.com /NorthJersey/ DeathNotices.asp? Page=LifeStory &PersonId=98066793 *** begin quote *** James Kissane KISSANE James P. passed away on November 14, 2007. Born in
the James loved his flowers, birds, wild life, cooking and parties. He showed us how to love by giving his love freely to all and he will be greatly missed by all who knew him. His greatest joy was his family, religion and friends. He will be remembered as his children’s best friend. James is survived by his son John and wife Vicky of Waldwick, NJ, daughters Susan Jakubowski and husband John of New City, Arlene Leyden and husband Bill of Washingtonville, NY, brothers Charles of Milford, NJ, John Basking Ridge, Nu and Joseph of Smithtown, NY and sister Ellen Murphy of New City and his special friend Betty Bosland of Midland Park, NJ. He is also survived by his eight loving grandchildren and many nieces and nephews. He is predeceased by his wife Arlene of 32 years. Family will receive friends on Thursday evening 7-9PM and
Friday 2-4 and 7-9PM at Higgins Funeral Home, Published in The Record and Herald News on 11/16/2007. ***End Quote*** Guestbook for your comments is at: http:// www.legacy.com /NorthJersey/GB/ GuestbookView.aspx? PersonId=98066793 # - # - # Dear John, I believe that James is a member
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JNEWS: Thomas Zugibe (MC1975) http:// www.thejournalnews.com /apps/pbcs.dll/ article?AID= /20071112/ NEWS03 /711120347 Tom Zugibe has plans for Rockland District Attorney’s Office By STEVE LIEBERMAN THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original publication: November 12, 2007) ***Begin Quote*** Thomas Zugibe thought long and
hard about running for The Haverstraw Democrat and son of the former In the proceeding 12 years, he said, the timing wasn’t right. He had family obligations that made a long campaign difficult or financially impossible. Zugibe, a former prosecutor,
spent two decades building a law practice with Arthur Ferraro and working for
nonprofit groups. He also served as “I had the passion to be district attorney for many years,” Zugibe said Wednesday, still exhausted from election night celebrating and a nearly yearlong campaign. This year, the political and personal stars became aligned. Three of his four children are in college and life was easier. “We saw light at the end of the tunnel this time,” Zugibe said. “I’m 54. The opportunities were diminishing. I believe I can make a difference as district attorney.” He said he felt Republican Michael Bongiorno also was vulnerable after 12 years in office. He saw Bongiorno as an accomplished lawyer without scandal, but felt the office could do better, including reducing crime before it occurred. Zugibe also knew Democratic voters outnumbered Republicans across the county. The race was hard fought, with Zugibe
pressing his programs and criticism. Bongiorno
stuck to promoting that his record led to record-low crime in Zugibe beat Bongiorno
by 1,223 votes. A last-minute bloc vote from Zugibe takes office in January. He doesn’t come without some first-hand knowledge of the job. He worked as a county prosecutor, handling violent crime and drug cases from 1981 to 1987, and leaving as an executive assistant to then-District Attorney Kenneth Gribetz. He came to the office after two years as a prosecutor or the state Attorney General’s Medicaid Fraud Office. “He was a very competent attorney,” said Jerry O’Leary, a retired state trooper and District Attorney’s Office investigator. “He was a professional and fun to work with. He will do well.” Wilbur Aldridge, a National Association for the Advancement of Colored People official from Haverstraw, said Zugibe has principles and sticks to them, like his father, Frederick Zugibe, the former medical examiner who groomed his son in the fine art of autopsy and forensic pathology. Aldridge said he knows Zugibe’s wife, Peggy, a member of the North Rockland Board of Education. “He comes from a very prominent and well-respected family, a very civic-minded family,” Aldridge said. “He speaks his mind.” Aldridge said he was impressed with Zugibe’s views that crime prevention should play a major role for prosecutors, along with convicting the criminals. “He spoke about more than one method of crime fighting,” Aldridge said. Zugibe has big plans for the office, aiming to change the culture while being strong on prosecuting violent criminals. He said he hopes to develop a closer working relationship with the police departments, improving communication on pleas and cases. He ran with the support of the Rockland Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association leadership. A cornerstone of Zugibe’s office will be community prosecution, during which prosecutors will work in the community. The prosecutors will work with the police, clergy, civic leaders and those people on the cusp of crime. A team will visit counties that have community prosecution
programs and a pilot unit will be established in He said he also has plans to create a special-victims unit, comprising two prosecutors and a detective. The unit would work with the police and public. Zugibe said the unit would work closely with crime victims, such as children, the elderly, and people with developmentally and mental disabilities. The unit would help victims of domestic violence, sexual abuse and rape. “Special victims unit operate in D.A. offices across the nation,” Zugibe said. “Even before I take office, I want this unit to be started.” Zugibe said he would name a transition team to evaluate the staff and how the office operates. He said he didn’t know what attorneys would be asked to stay. “It is premature to say, but I expect there would be changes,” Zugibe said. He said he wants Ferraro, his law partner of 20 years, to become his second in command, calling him a premier trial attorney. Ferraro, a defense lawyer and former Family remains a focus of Zugibe’s life. The campaign became a family affair - with his wife, brothers, sister, father and mother appearing with him and representing him across the county. One brother died nearly a year ago. Zugibe said he still hasn’t gotten over the death of Fred Zugibe, the eldest of the six siblings. Tom Zugibe said his brother, a cardiologist, examined him, but never examined himself. “He encouraged me to run,” Zugibe said. “The campaign came on and I never really had a chance to grieve his death. Family is the most important thing in life for me.” Karyl Caplan, the executive director of ARC, which helps people with disabilities, said Zugibe wears his heart on this sleeve. Zugibe has been an ARC board member for 20 years. “Tom is a very genuine and caring person and he’s very family oriented,” Caplan said. “He’s precise in the way he explains things and he doesn’t shoot from the hip. He has a good sense of humor.” # - # - # Thomas Zugibe Born: Feb. 13, 1953 Personal: Married with four children Career: Attorney Political: West Haverstraw village justice, 1989-2007;
elected Community: Served on the board of directors of ARC of Rockland since 1988; Rockland County Drug Court; Rockland Community Foundation and Hudson Valley Make-A-Wish Foundation; North Rockland Rotary Club; Italian-American Social Club; Just-for-Fun Recreational Baseball; Haverstraw Little League; Clarkstown Gridirons; North Rockland Soccer Association, and North Rockland Youth Hockey Association. Education: Graduated from Work Experience: A special assistant general for Medicaid
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MNEWS: Jimmy Jones maybe an MCfac; doing good work http://www.nhregister.com /site/ news.cfm? newsid=19009922 &BRD=1281 &PAG=461 &dept_id=7576 &rfi=6
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Al-Islam, the eyes and ears of the {Extraneous Deleted} Jimmy Jones, president of the board of directors of Masjid Al-Islam, said contributing to the welfare of the
immediate “Our goal is to make wherever we live a safer, peaceful,
family-supporting place for ourselves and everybody who lives with us,” said
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From: Reinke, John [1968] Jasper Colleagues: Just a quick report about last night's
get together. Peter Quinn '69 was a hoot. He was charming,
self-deprecating, and quite insightful (imho). He was quite frank about the
Good, Bad and Ugly of Jaspers, I'm going to try to get the text of his remarks so I can
pull out all the gems. Such as when he faked a book report and the good
Brother AQ told him "Mister Quinn, you're full of shit". His life
lesson from that was "you have to do the work". And "I wish
that Brother AQ was in many of the political meetings with me so he could
have dispensed his wisdom to blow hards with fancy
degrees." And, "I never felt at a disadvantage with my He had the crowd in stitches as he described his "career of unsuccess". All in all, to me, it was worth the attention, time and cost. Of special note, Jaspers are getting much better looking than when I was there. Cheers, p.s.: The next NYC meeting is April 10th. If the Intelligent Designer permits, I'm planning to go. Yell, if you want a lift. ===== ===== ===== Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:20 PM Congrats on a great event. Did someone capture Jasper Quinn's speech? I didn't think to bring my audio recorder. If not, can some ask him for his remarks. I can scan them even if they are handwritten. Thanks, fjohn68 ===== ===== ===== From: Thomas McCarthy [2006] John, Thanks for the nice words and I'm glad you enjoyed the evening. I asked Peter last night to send them to me (they were typed) and reminded him this morning. I'll be happy to pass them along when received. Best, Thomas A. McCarthy ===== ===== ===== Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:31 PM (No one ever said I wasn't fair. Just a loon. Give credit where credit is due. Last night was a winner. And, I'll be saying that to the ~1500 Jaspers that read Jottings this week. Just like when I beat up on you all, I'll praise you when you exceed my unreasonable expectations.) Unless you are claiming credit for all the "better looking than I" Jaspers, I give you all the credit. I'll have to give the nod to the Intelligent Designer for the "new and improved" model of Jaspers that the College is turning out. But, then the College has to work with what comes in the front door. 10-4 on the notes; looking forward to them. Thanks, # # # # # |
From: Bob Scudo (1969) Please see the URL in your message. It should be http://www.jasperjottings.com/ --- "Ferdinand J. Reinke" wrote: > Sunday 11 November 2007 {JR: Jasper Bob was the first of many in with the report. I’ll try and do better in the future! } |
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Ferrara [1972] John: Since I am an MC grad who majored in chemistry, your
"Manhattan_in_the_News" article
"MNEWS: the 'big chilli' is Maria Disavino, a professor of chemistry at It appears that Prof. Disavino is a chem lab instructor. See the following link. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=154256 Regards, -----Responding Message----- From: Reinke's Jasper (mc68alum) Persona Yup, the hunt is on for her pic. I could pin the usage meters if I had it. Apparently no one does. Which makes it more mysterious how she won? fjohn68 {JR: Guess I’ll have to take a day off, grab my camera, and go hunt down the illusion? } |
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JFound: Remembering FDNY Lieutenant Joseph G. Leavey (MC1977) http://www.911familiesforamerica.org/?p=581 ‘Our Memorials to … Nothing’ and no one ***Begin Quote*** Six years ago today we laid Joe Leavey
to rest on what would have been his 46th birthday. He was a loving husband
and father, a loyal son, and the younger brother of three sisters who admired
the fine man they had watched him grow to be. I first met Joe in 1977 soon
after he graduated with a degree in engineering from FDNY Lieutenant Joseph G. Leavey is also a 9/11 hero who led four Ladder 15 firefighters to the 78th floor of the World Trade Center’s South Tower, fought fire, struggled to reach those trapped above, and died so that others might live. While my family will long remember, the national memorial
that is to bear his name will depict nothing of his sacrifice. It will be
surrounded by trees and running water will flow beneath where 3,000 names are
etched into metal. Yet not one ounce of the millions of tons of the Nothing depicting the heroism or carnage of 9/11 will be above ground at Ground Zero — and no American flag will fly over where American heroes fell. Not far away, they will bury a museum and a turning point in history. It is with that knowledge that I must agree with Duncan Maxwell Anderson’s assessment of our memorials. ***End Quote*** {JR: Reporting it sadly.} # # # # # |
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071006/D8S3EEI80.html Man Gets 5 Months for Killing Ostrich *** begin quote *** REDWOOD CITY, Calif. (AP) - A man has been sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for killing an ostrich in San Mateo County. Timothy McKevitt will also have to pay $5,000 in restitution for killing Gaylord the ostrich. Authorities say McKevitt and his friend Jonathan Porter and a few others were drinking on Halloween last year and decided to trespass on a ranch. Gaylord the ostrich apparently grew incensed and attacked and injured both men. Porter and McKevitt later returned to the ranch with a rifle and shotgun and killed Gaylord. Porter has already served a sentence of five months. *** end quote *** Too bad, Gaylord, didn’t kick their butts. Five months! Rifle AND a shotgun. Drinking! How did they get to the farm with their weapons? Drunk driving and packin in a car – both have to be against the law in the Pepuls Republik of Kalleyforney Poor Gaylord. I just shake my head and wonder what kind of humans we are growin these days. |
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